Some weeks after Sen. Elissa Slotkin told a University of Chicago audience that Democrats should pursue high-profile "signature cases" against officials who served President Trump, the remark has become a question about the boundary between oversight and intimidation. Legal observers are weighing whether such words could someday be used against Congress's own subpoenas, a reminder that in a republic the reasons behind an investigation can matter as much as its findings. The courts have long held that inquiry is legitimate but punishment is not, and the unresolved tests left by Trump v. Mazars
Slotkin's 'Deterrence Message' on Trump Administration Jobs May Undercut Future Democratic Probes
"The process is the punishment."
Slotkin said she wants a deterrence message sent. Why is that a legal problem and not just a political one?
Because the Supreme Court says Congress can't investigate solely to punish individuals. Her stated goal, discouraging people from taking administration jobs, sounds a lot like punishment to critics.
Careful, though. That argument comes from Abhishek Kambli, a former Trump Justice Department official. He's not a neutral voice, and no court has tested it.
What does Mazars actually require?
A four-part test: legitimate legislative need, narrow requests, no other source for the information, and the burden on the president.
And the court sent that case back without deciding whether the subpoenas passed. So how the test works in practice is still unsettled.
Does Mazars even apply to officials other than the president?
Michael Morley says applying it that way would be a stretch, since the case was about the president's personal records.
Right, and he thinks courts are reluctant to void subpoenas over lawmakers' motives. He calls the effect "marginal." Those two experts disagree on size, not just emphasis.
What did Slotkin say she meant?
She told CNN she was talking about officials who break the law or misuse taxpayer money, and called the criticism manufactured outrage.
Worth noting the Chicago quote as reported doesn't include that qualifier. Whether a court would weigh her later clarification is unknown, and so is whether Democrats win Congress at all.
O Pulso
- A freshman senator's offhand remark about deterring young people from joining the administration has set off a quarrel over motive and intent.
- A former Justice Department official warns that the statement could be cited to challenge future Democratic subpoenas in court.
- Legal scholars split: one sees the court's test as a real hazard, another calls the effect marginal and the comments mere atmosphere.
- Democrats are already preparing investigations into Trump family business dealings and the donors behind the White House ballroom, raising the stakes.
- The outcome hangs on the midterms and on whether any future subpoena is tested in court with these words entered as evidence.
Some weeks after Sen. Elissa Slotkin told a University of Chicago audience that Democrats should pursue high-profile "signature cases" against officials who served President Trump, the remark has become a question about the boundary between oversight and intimidation. Legal observers are weighing whether such words could someday be used against Congress's own subpoenas, a reminder that in a republic the reasons behind an investigation can matter as much as its findings. The courts have long held that inquiry is legitimate but punishment is not, and the unresolved tests left by Trump v. Mazars now carry the weight of a politician's stated intentions. Whether the words prove harmless or consequential will depend on what Democrats do if they regain power.
On Oct. 13, at an event at the University of Chicago, Sen. Elissa Slotkin, a Michigan Democrat, said her party should pursue "signature cases" against officials who helped President Trump. She argued that a few prominent prosecutions would discourage young Americans from taking jobs in the administration, imagining a recent graduate worried about "buying myself a ton of problems" by signing on.
Weeks later, former Justice Department official Abhishek Kambli warned that the remark could come back to haunt Democrats. If they take control of an investigating chamber after the midterms, he said, anyone resisting a subpoena could point to comments like hers as proof that the inquiry was really about punishment, not legislation. Boilerplate about a legitimate legislative purpose would not be enough.
The Supreme Court has held that Congress may investigate broadly but may not use that power solely to punish individuals. In Trump v. Mazars, the court set out a four-part test for subpoenas, but it sent the case back without deciding whether the House had met it, leaving the standard largely untested.
Other experts see less danger. Michael Morley of Florida State University argued that courts will be reluctant to strike down a subpoena over lawmakers' possible motives, and that Mazars, which concerned the president's personal records, would be a stretch to apply to other officials. Still, he acknowledged that the words are "bad atmospherics" that could make judges less inclined to resolve doubts in Democrats' favor.
Slotkin has said she meant officials who break the law or misuse taxpayer money, calling the criticism "manufactured outrage." What remains to be seen is whether Democrats win Congress and whether future subpoenas, including Sen. Richard Blumenthal's donor inquiry, are challenged with her remarks cited as evidence.
On Oct. 13, at an event at the University of Chicago, Sen. Elissa Slotkin, a freshman Democrat from Michigan, said she wants her party to pursue "signature cases" against officials who helped President Trump. Her reasoning was that a few prominent prosecutions or investigations would discourage young Americans from taking jobs in his administration. "I want that deterrence message sent," she said, describing a recent graduate who might worry about "buying myself a ton of problems" by signing on.
Several weeks later, a former Trump Justice Department official is arguing that the remark could come back to hurt Democrats. Abhishek Kambli, a former deputy associate attorney general who is now a partner at Holtzman Vogel, told Fox News Digital that if Democrats win either chamber of Congress in the midterms and take charge of its investigations, anyone fighting a subpoena could point to statements like Slotkin's. "If they just throw in boilerplate language that this is for legislative purpose, anyone challenging those subpoenas will have that entire record to demonstrate that it's anything but that," he said.
The legal backdrop is a line the Supreme Court has already drawn. Congress has wide authority to investigate, to subpoena witnesses and to examine how the government operates, but the justices have held that those powers cannot be used solely to punish individuals. The court dealt with the limits in 2020 in Trump v. Mazars, a case that arose when House Democrats sought Trump's personal financial records. The decision set out a four-part test. Courts are to ask whether Congress showed a legitimate legislative need for the records, whether its request was narrowly drawn, whether the information could be found elsewhere, and what burden the subpoenas would put on the president. The court returned the dispute to lower courts without deciding whether the subpoenas met those standards, so questions remain about how the test works in practice.
Kambli argued that courts do not have to accept Congress's stated purpose at face value. "So it's not enough just to tack on a legislative purpose," he said. Judges, in his view, can look at the facts and at how a subpoena fits with the broader comments lawmakers have made. He also raised a concern beyond court rulings: that the process itself can punish. "There is the idea that the process is the punishment," he said, adding that some members of Congress intend to use investigations to bankrupt people who cannot afford lawyers. He said Trump's Justice Department would be unlikely to prosecute administration officials on criminal contempt referrals from a Democratic Congress, but that could change under a future Democratic administration.
Democrats are already preparing. House Democrats are laying groundwork for inquiries into Trump's family business dealings and possible conflicts of interest if they regain control. Sen. Richard Blumenthal, D-Conn., has vowed to widen his investigation into the donors funding Trump's White House ballroom if Democrats retake the Senate.
Another constitutional law expert thinks the legal risk is smaller. Michael Morley, a professor at Florida State University College of Law, said courts understand that politicians bring partisan motives to investigations and would hesitate to throw out subpoenas over provocative remarks. "At the end of the day, a court is going to be very reluctant to conclude, based on one or more members' possible subjective motivations, that Congress lacks constitutional authority to investigate," he said. He added that Mazars concerned the president's personal records, so applying its heightened standards to subpoenas aimed at other officials would be a stretch.
Still, Morley allowed that Slotkin's words are not harmless. When the legal basis for a subpoena is already shaky, he said, her language could give judges pause. "It's bad atmospherics,” he said, and could make courts "marginally less likely" to resolve doubts in Democrats' favor. He also criticized the idea of frightening young government employees who may lack resources to defend themselves: "That's just not how we want our political disputes to be handled."
Slotkin has rejected the charge that she wants to go after people simply for working for Republicans. She told CNN she was referring to officials who break the law or misuse taxpayer money, and called the criticism "manufactured outrage." What to watch is whether Democrats win control of Congress, and whether any future subpoenas, including in Blumenthal's donor inquiry, are challenged in court with these remarks cited as evidence.
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I want that deterrence message sent.— Sen. Elissa Slotkin, Oct. 13 University of Chicago event
It's bad atmospherics.— Michael Morley, Florida State University College of Law