A question reportedly put by American envoys has pushed an old and unresolved bargain into the open: whether Ukraine might trade away the eastern Donbas region for a future place in NATO. Zelenskyy, who recounted it on Saturday, took it as a sign that his country's relationship with the alliance has returned to the table, even as Abu Dhabi talks ended without agreement and neither Washington nor the alliance has confirmed the exchange. The question lands in a long story in which Moscow has framed NATO expansion as the cause of war, and Kyiv has held that land seized by force cannot be recognis
Zelenskyy Says US Floated Ceding Donbas to Russia in Exchange for Ukraine's NATO Bid
Washington asked: if Ukraine joined NATO, would it leave Donbas?
What exactly is Zelenskyy saying the Americans proposed?
He says the envoys asked a hypothetical: if Ukraine joined NATO, would it withdraw from Donbas? He said it was the first time it had been raised.
And why does he read that as good news?
He takes it as proof NATO membership is back on the table. His argument is that after all the support given, Washington can't just let Ukraine go.
Worth noting that this is his account alone. NATO and Washington haven't commented directly on it.
Kushner did post something, though.
He did, but he didn't address this question. He spoke of maximalist propositions from both sides and said new ideas were being explored. That neither confirms nor denies it.
And it's framed as a question, not a formal offer. Nobody has said it was a proposal with terms.
Where does Russia stand?
It calls NATO membership a red line, and it pressed on with strikes in Pavlohrad and near Zaporizhzhia on Saturday.
What we don't know is whether Moscow has even seen this idea, or how Europe's five delegates will respond.
El Pulso
- A single question from American envoys, if Ukraine joined NATO would it leave Donbas, has jolted Kyiv and raised fears of a land-for-membership bargain.
- Abu Dhabi talks between Kushner, Witkoff and the two sides ended without a breakthrough, and the envoys say they are exploring new ideas in private.
- Russian strikes continue to hit cities and villages, with Pavlohrad and a village near Zaporizhzhia struck deadly on Saturday as the front nears Zaporizhzhia.
- Europe is moving to claim a seat at the table, with France, Germany, Italy, the UK and Poland chosen to join future talks.
- Officials remain sharply divided over security guarantees, with Macron warning against forcing an unjust peace and Merz calling new arrangements unnecessary, while no confirmation of the proposal has come from NATO or Washington.
A question reportedly put by American envoys has pushed an old and unresolved bargain into the open: whether Ukraine might trade away the eastern Donbas region for a future place in NATO. Zelenskyy, who recounted it on Saturday, took it as a sign that his country's relationship with the alliance has returned to the table, even as Abu Dhabi talks ended without agreement and neither Washington nor the alliance has confirmed the exchange. The question lands in a long story in which Moscow has framed NATO expansion as the cause of war, and Kyiv has held that land seized by force cannot be recognised as Russian. Against those positions, this moment is less a turning point than another test of whether a settlement can be built on terms either side would accept.
On Saturday, Zelenskyy revealed a question he said American envoys had never asked before: would Ukraine withdraw from Donbas if it were to join NATO? He read it as a sign that the alliance question, which lies at the heart of Russia's justification for the invasion, is back on the agenda.
The question came from a week of diplomacy. Envoys Jared Kushner and Steve Witkoff spent two days in Abu Dhabi with the delegations, ending without a breakthrough, and then met Putin and Zelenskyy separately on Thursday. Kushner said publicly that both sides had taken maximalist positions and that the envoys would keep working quietly to find a path to peace. Neither NATO nor Washington has confirmed Zelenskyy's account.
On the ground, the pressure has not eased. Russian strikes killed people in Pavlohrad and near Zaporizhzhia, now only a few dozen kilometres from the front. Putin has proposed a humanitarian mission to Kostyantynivka, which Zelenskyy sees as a step toward further Russian gains in Donbas.
Europe is now preparing to join the talks, with five countries chosen to represent the continent. Meanwhile, the debate over wider security arrangements has sharpened, with Macron warning against an unjust peace and Merz saying existing structures suffice. The next thing to watch is whether the proposal is confirmed, and whether Europe presses for guarantees before any discussion of territory.
On Saturday, Nov 14, comments were released in which Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy described a question put to him by American envoys that, he said, had never been asked before: if Ukraine were to join NATO, would it pull out of Donbas? He took the question as a sign that his country's relationship with the alliance is, in his words, back on the agenda.
The question came out of a week of diplomacy. US envoys Jared Kushner and Steve Witkoff held two days of talks with delegations in Abu Dhabi that ended without a breakthrough. On Thursday they met Russian President Vladimir Putin and Zelenskyy separately. Zelenskyy said that after the defence support Ukraine has received, and the strength its army has shown, Washington cannot simply let Ukraine go.
Neither NATO nor Washington has directly commented on his account. Kushner, Donald Trump's son-in-law, posted on X that media had reported maximalist propositions from both sides, along with strong political rhetoric. He said the envoys were determined to keep working, to preserve the confidentiality that sensitive negotiations need, and to find a path to end the war. Several new ideas, he wrote, had emerged and were being explored.
The underlying problem has not moved. Ukraine has long sought NATO membership, and Moscow treats it as a red line. Russia launched its 2022 invasion saying the West planned to bring Ukraine into the alliance. Zelenskyy, for his part, insisted Ukraine will not recognise any land taken by Russian troops as Russian. He said Kyiv is discussing security guarantees with Western partners and that Ukrainians will ultimately decide whether to accept any deal.
On the ground, the pressure continues. Zelenskyy warned that the Kremlin is betting everything on this winter's military campaign, and Moscow has pounded Ukraine in the run-up to the cold months. On Saturday, Russian strikes were deadly in the eastern city of Pavlohrad and in a village near Zaporizhzhia, which now lies just a few dozen kilometres from the front line. Russian troops have inched westwards but have not been able to take the whole of Donetsk region.
Putin this week proposed a humanitarian mission to Kostyantynivka, a town Moscow announced it had seized in the summer but where Kyiv says fighting goes on. Zelenskyy called it a bid to advance Russian gains in Donetsk and said the next targets would be Ukraine's other cities in Donbas. The Kremlin has also ruled out foreign peacekeeping troops in Ukraine and wider ceasefires, while Trump's administration has spent almost two years trying to produce a breakthrough.
Europe is about to have a seat. This week's meetings produced agreement that European countries would join future talks, and in Dublin on Friday Europe picked five to send representatives: France, Germany, Italy, the UK and Poland.
Russia has tried to widen the agenda from ending the war to the continent's overall security. Its chief negotiator, Vladimir Medinsky, called this week for a new, modern Yalta, which drew criticism from European leaders. In 2021, before the invasion, Moscow had issued an ultimatum demanding NATO pull troops back from eastern Europe. Zelenskyy said wider arrangements should be discussed only after the war ends. Germany's Friedrich Merz said Friday there is no need to discuss it because a security architecture already exists. French President Emmanuel Macron said Saturday that those who want to ration aid to Ukraine are in effect seeking to force an unjust peace on it, calling that the spirit of defeat and a recipe for another war.
What to watch now is whether Washington or NATO confirms the proposal as Zelenskyy described it, and whether the five European states push for security guarantees before any discussion of territory.
Citas Notables
The Americans raised a question: what if Ukraine joins NATO, would Ukraine withdraw from Donbas? This was the first time this had been raised.— Volodymyr Zelenskyy
We do not need to discuss that, it already exists.— Friedrich Merz, on a new security architecture