At a private fundraiser in Southampton, US Vice President JD Vance was recorded mocking Canadian Prime Minister Mark Carney's negotiating posture, laughing at what he described as a pattern of public bravado followed by quiet concession. The remarks surfaced at the most fragile moment in months of tariff brinkmanship, with Trump having threatened 50 percent duties on Canadian goods and a brief pause now holding the line. It is an old story in the theater of nations — the private room where one power laughs at another's dignity, and the question of whether that laughter, once heard, changes wha
Vance mocks Carney in leaked audio as Canada trade talks reach critical juncture
They climb down on a lot of issues while calling it a victory
Why does it matter that Vance said this in private? Isn't that just how negotiations work—people say different things behind closed doors?
It matters because it got out. The moment it's public, it changes the domestic politics. Carney has to go home and tell his own people he got a deal, and now they're hearing the Americans think he folded. That's a credibility problem.
But if Canada really did give up more than it got, isn't Vance just telling the truth?
Maybe. But there's a difference between what's true and what you say out loud at a fundraiser when you know you're negotiating with someone. It's a choice to humiliate the other side publicly.
What about Kinew pushing back? He seems to think Canada should keep fighting.
He does. And he's got real power—he controls a province. But he's also not the one at the table. Carney is. Carney has to weigh what Kinew wants against what Trump will actually do with those tariffs.
So Carney is trapped.
In a way, yes. If he makes a deal, he looks weak. If he doesn't, Trump imposes the tariffs and Canadians suffer. The leaked audio just made the first option look worse.
Does Trump benefit from this leak?
Almost certainly. Whether he leaked it or not, it serves his interests. It makes his negotiating partner look diminished at home, which weakens Carney's hand for whatever comes next.
Il Polso
- A leaked recording of Vance mocking Carney as a chest-puffer who quietly folds has detonated inside already tense trade negotiations, stripping away the diplomatic veneer both sides had maintained.
- Trump's threat of 50 percent tariffs on Canadian goods — briefly set to hit on August 19 before a last-minute three-day pause — has created a pressure cooker in which Canada is now weighing a significant retreat on provincial alcohol bans.
- Carney has reportedly gone province by province asking premiers to lift retaliatory bans on US alcohol, a request Manitoba's premier described with pointed understatement as 'a step before begging.'
- Provincial leaders are fracturing in their response — some urging Canadians to keep boycotting American goods regardless of any deal, with Manitoba's Wab Kinew declaring Trump 'weak' and warning Canada against folding.
- The leaked audio, timed to reach the press as negotiators close final gaps, may have made it significantly harder for Carney to sell any agreement as a genuine Canadian victory at home.
At a private fundraiser in Southampton, US Vice President JD Vance was recorded mocking Canadian Prime Minister Mark Carney's negotiating posture, laughing at what he described as a pattern of public bravado followed by quiet concession. The remarks surfaced at the most fragile moment in months of tariff brinkmanship, with Trump having threatened 50 percent duties on Canadian goods and a brief pause now holding the line. It is an old story in the theater of nations — the private room where one power laughs at another's dignity, and the question of whether that laughter, once heard, changes what is still possible.
A recording from a private New York fundraiser captured Vice President JD Vance describing Canadian Prime Minister Mark Carney as a 'very sweet guy' — then laughing. Carney, Vance told the room, walks into negotiations declaring he will out-tough Donald Trump himself. "It's hilarious," Vance said, because Carney presents the outcome as a Canadian victory when, in his telling, Canada quietly climbs down on issue after issue.
The audio surfaced at the worst possible moment. Trump had threatened 50 percent tariffs on Canadian goods, with an August 19 deadline that he then paused for three days. The leverage is real, and what Canada appears to be offering in exchange for relief is substantial: the provinces, which had banned US alcohol from their shelves in retaliation for earlier tariff threats, would lift those restrictions. American producers had reported an 81 percent year-over-year drop in Canadian alcohol imports. The White House had pointed to those bans as discriminatory — justification, it said, for the tariff threat.
Getting the provinces to reverse course has required Carney to ask them directly. Manitoba Premier Wab Kinew described the conversation with dry precision: 'I wouldn't say he was begging us — but what is a step before begging?' Nova Scotia's premier confirmed a similar exchange had taken place. Kinew said he respected Carney but believed Canada should hold firm, urging citizens to keep buying Canadian even if American alcohol returned to shelves. He went further, calling Trump weak and predicting American losses in the midterms. 'You cannot get a good deal with a bad person,' he said.
Whether Carney can now sell any agreement as a win — to a public that heard Vance laughing, and to premiers already questioning how hard he had to push — is the question hanging over the final stretch of negotiations.
A recording surfaced this week capturing Vice President JD Vance at a New York fundraiser, speaking to supporters about Canada's prime minister with a mixture of warmth and contempt. Vance described Mark Carney as a "very sweet guy" whom he gets along with fine. Then he laughed. Carney, he said, walks into negotiations and puffs out his chest, declaring he will out-tough Donald Trump himself. "It's hilarious," Vance told the room, "because Carney presents this as some victory for Canada when fundamentally, like, they climb down on a lot of issues."
The audio, shared with the Canadian Press and recorded at the Southampton event, lands at the most delicate moment in months of grinding trade talks between the two countries. Trump has threatened to impose tariffs of 50 percent on Canadian goods, a threat he first said would take effect on August 19 before backing down on Tuesday and announcing a three-day pause. The leverage is real. The stakes are high. And now, with Vance's private words made public, the diplomatic temperature has dropped further.
What Carney appears to be negotiating—what Canadian officials say is close to agreement—involves a significant Canadian retreat. The provinces, which had imposed bans on US alcohol sales as retaliation for Trump's earlier tariff threats, would lift those restrictions. In exchange, Canada hopes to avoid the worst of the incoming duties. The White House had justified the 50 percent tariff threat by pointing to what it called discriminatory treatment: eight of ten Canadian provinces and all three territories had blocked US wine, beer, and spirits from their shelves. American producers reported substantial losses. Canadian imports of US alcohol have fallen roughly 81 percent year over year.
But getting the provinces to agree has required Carney to ask them directly to reverse course. Wab Kinew, the premier of Manitoba, described the request this week with a wry precision. "I wouldn't say he was begging us," Kinew said, "but what is a step before begging?" His counterpart in Nova Scotia, Tim Houston, confirmed the same conversation had taken place. Kinew said he respected Carney for standing up to Trump and believed Canada should hold firm. He encouraged Canadians to keep boycotting American products even if the alcohol returned to shelves. "Buy the Canadian stuff instead," he said. "We've done an amazing job of sticking together in the face of Donald Trump's tariff threats and I think we should continue to do that."
Kinew went further, offering his own assessment of American strength. "I think Donald Trump is weak," he said. "America is weaker around the world today than it was a year ago, and he's about to get slaughtered in the midterms." He invoked a principle he attributed to wise people: you cannot get a good deal with a bad person. Canada should fight, he argued, not fold.
Yet the recording of Vance's remarks suggests the American side sees the outcome differently. Whether Carney can sell a deal to his own country—and to provincial leaders who are already questioning whether he had to ask so hard—remains an open question. The leaked audio, timed to reach the press just as negotiators are trying to close the final gaps, may have made that task considerably harder.
Citazioni salienti
It's hilarious because Carney presents this as some victory for Canada when fundamentally they climb down on a lot of issues.— JD Vance, in leaked audio
I wouldn't say he was begging us, but what is a step before begging?— Wab Kinew, Manitoba Premier, on Carney's request to lift alcohol bans