Tech Billionaire Kogan Chooses Mother's Table Over Fine Dining

What you've got in front of you is exactly what I'm craving
Kogan explains why he chooses his mother's Belarusian cooking over fine dining, no matter where he travels.
Mark

So he's worth $300 million and he chooses his mother's dining table. Is that just good branding, or is something real happening there?

Mimi

I think it's both, but the real part runs deeper than the brand. He's describing a specific hunger—something about his mother's cooking that no restaurant can replicate. It's not nostalgia exactly. It's the thing he actually wants.

Luke

But we should be careful here. The piece shows us what he says he wants. We don't know if he actually eats at his mother's table regularly or if this was staged for the interview. The "Lunch With" series is a format, after all.

Mark

Fair point. But the detail about the 18-hour brisket, the obsessive checking of the smoker—that suggests a real practice, not performance.

Mimi

Exactly. And his wife Anastasia apparently used to scold him for waking up at night to check on it. That's a specific domestic friction that feels true.

Luke

It does. Though we're only hearing his version of it. We don't have Anastasia's account of whether she actually scolded him or how often this happens.

Mark

What strikes me is the contrast—he's in Toorak now, one of the wealthiest suburbs in Melbourne, but he seems genuinely uncomfortable there. "Everyone's got really tall fences," he says.

Mimi

He printed pamphlets introducing himself and his dog to the neighbourhood. Got one response. That's a man trying to build community in a place designed to prevent it.

Luke

That's a real observation about Toorak's culture, but it also tells us something about Kogan's expectations. He came from housing commission flats. He's still thinking like someone from a different world.

Mark

Which brings us back to the immigrant story. His parents arrived with $90. His father was an engineer in the Soviet Union, ended up delivering pizzas.

Mimi

And Kogan started cleaning golf balls at ten. He's internalised that hunger. He says it created the drive to build things.

Luke

The source material supports that he started businesses young and that his parents worked modest jobs. But we should note: we don't have independent verification of how much that shaped his psychology versus how much he's constructed that narrative about himself.

Mark

Does it matter? He's living it out—he built a $300 million company.

Mimi

It matters for understanding him. The narrative he tells about himself is part of who he is. But Luke's right that we're seeing his interpretation of his own life.

Luke

And there's a gap between the immigrant story and the current reality. He's now part of the Toorak elite, even if he doesn't feel at home there. That tension is interesting but unresolved in the piece.

Mark

What about the controversy—the jokes, the "work from home" comment?

Mimi

He seems to think he's being silenced by political correctness. He frames it as a free speech issue, invoking his parents' escape from the Soviet Union.

Luke

But the piece doesn't really interrogate that. He made a joke, people objected, and he's now saying that objection is a sign of declining freedom. Those are two different claims, and the second one doesn't automatically follow from the first.

Mark

So we're left with a portrait of a man who's built something real but who's also somewhat defensive about his place in the world?

Mimi

And who still wants his mother's cooking more than anything else. That's the throughline. Everything else—the wealth, the controversy, the Toorak mansion—circles back to that one true thing.

  • Ruslan Kogan is worth approximately $300 million, down from $575 million at the pandemic peak
  • The Kogan family arrived in Australia on June 29, 1989, with $90, fleeing the Soviet Union
  • Kogan founded kogan.com in 2006 on credit cards after working at Telstra and Accenture
  • At one stage during COVID-19, kogan.com's market capitalisation exceeded Myer's by more than 10 times
  • Kogan ran the 2022 Paris marathon in 4 hours and 44 minutes

Kogan built a $300m fortune through kogan.com but maintains humble values, preferring his mother's Belarusian cooking to fine dining establishments worldwide. The family arrived in Australia in 1989 with $90, with parents working modest jobs while Kogan started businesses from age 10, eventually founding kogan.com in 2006.

Belarusian-born tech entrepreneur Ruslan Kogan, worth $300m, chooses his mother's dining table over fine dining, reflecting on his immigrant journey from Soviet Union to founding Australian online retail giant kogan.com.

Ruslan Kogan is worth about $300 million, down from $575 million at the pandemic's peak. He has just cut his own salary by roughly $800,000 as part of a share incentive scheme. When asked to name his favourite restaurant for this conversation, he does something most executives never do: he asks to eat at his mother's house.

The Belarusian-born tech founder, now 43, arrived in Australia in 1989 with his family—his parents Alex and Irene, and his sister Svetlana—carrying $90 and nothing else. They had fled the Soviet Union for a country where, as a six-year-old, he had never seen a banana or a pineapple. The family first settled in housing commission flats in Elsternwick, a working-class corner of south-east Melbourne. Today, Irene and Alex live in Toorak, one of Melbourne's wealthiest suburbs, in a home that resembles, by Kogan's own description, a scaled-down British Museum. Gravel crunches under foot as visitors pass two Teslas on the way to the grand portico.

When Kogan speaks about his mother's cooking—the 18-hour slow-cooked brisket he tends with obsessive precision, the chicken soup he ranks among the world's best—he is describing something more than food. "When I've been overseas, and no matter how much fine dining we've had in restaurants, as soon as I get back to Melbourne, what you've got in front of you is exactly what I'm craving," he says. At lunch, Irene serves chicken soup with carrots and parsley-flecked noodles, followed by kotleti—moist pan-fried chicken cutlets—alongside pickles, buckwheat, and Olivier salad. For dessert, nalisniki, crêpes with jam. His wife Anastasia, a marketer and philanthropist involved with the Melbourne Opera and Arts Centre Melbourne, sits beside him in a pink jumper and jeans, matching Irene's outfit, both women delighted by the coincidence.

Kogan founded kogan.com in 2006 after working at Telstra and Accenture, frustrated by the difficulty of buying a decent television. He started the business on credit cards. His parents' journey shaped his hunger to build. His father, a major projects engineer in the Soviet Union, worked as a pizza delivery driver, at Queen Victoria Market, and in a sponge factory. His mother, who held medical qualifications, worked in cafes and as a cleaner. Kogan began his own entrepreneurial life at ten, cleaning and reselling discarded golf balls at a local golf club. "What it takes to be an immigrant is very similar to what it takes to be an entrepreneur," he reflects. "During my most formative years, I witnessed my parents drop everything they've got in the Soviet Union, take a massive risk, travel into the unknown, work their butt off for a potential benefit that might not be there."

He remembers June 29, 1989, the day they arrived. At his cousin's house in Carnegie, a south-eastern suburb, his cousin showed him a computer. They played Space Invaders. For the six-year-old, it was mind-blowing. He went on to Melbourne High School, a selective government school, where classmates noted his ability to move comfortably between vastly different worlds. In 2010, at Justin Hemmes' Ivy bar in Sydney, drunk and convinced he had spotted a Russian woman, he approached her with certainty. She replied: "I can tell with 100 per cent certainty you're an idiot." That woman was Anastasia. Sixteen years later, they have three children—two daughters and a son.

Kogan runs marathons, often along the Yarra or the Tan track around the Royal Botanic Gardens, without phone or headphones, only his Garmin fitness tracker recording progress. He ran the 2022 Paris marathon in four hours and 44 minutes. "There's something about running that has always been really attractive," he says. "A form of meditation almost." On these runs, he listens to conversations around him, and increasingly hears people talking about the cost of living. The squeeze suits his business: cost-conscious consumers compare prices more carefully, and kogan.com benefits. He believes Australia must foster entrepreneurship because the nation has limited natural resources but one unlimited one—the human mind.

The company rode both zenith and nadir during COVID-19 lockdowns. At one stage, kogan.com's market capitalisation exceeded Myer's by more than ten times. But the comedown was severe: massive overstocking forced price slashing and created a business crisis. The market caps are now similar. Kogan prefers to look forward. He deploys an AI avatar to deliver annual results presentations to investors, a more efficient use of his time than re-recording when forecasts change. He believes artificial intelligence will help customers find deals on his website. "Not only are we surviving," he says. "We're thriving. We are winning market share against global organisations who are many times bigger than us." His rise has not been without controversy—a long-standing feud with rival retailer Gerry Harvey, a "work from home" comment he later regretted, and a joke about the Australian cricket team's sandpaper scandal that tied it to Caitlyn Jenner, which offended some. When asked how he feels about it now, he pauses and looks out over the manicured lawn. "My parents went through a lot of shit to escape a place without freedom of speech," he replies. He admits he may have done a poor job trying to be funny. "That's one of the leading indicators to a decline in a free society," he says, "when comedians need to start apologising."

What it takes to be an immigrant is very similar to what it takes to be an entrepreneur. During my most formative years, I witnessed my parents drop everything they've got in the Soviet Union, take a massive risk, travel into the unknown, work their butt off for a potential benefit that might not be there.
— Ruslan Kogan
My parents went through a lot of shit to escape a place without freedom of speech.
— Ruslan Kogan, reflecting on criticism of his jokes
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