In the long procession of men who have carried the weight of the papacy, few have spoken so openly about the moment they stopped resisting it. Pope Leo XIV, the first American to hold the office, reflected aboard his papal plane on the conclave that elected him in May — describing not triumph or ambition, but a quiet act of surrender, shaped by centuries-old Carmelite wisdom, that allowed him to say yes to a life he had not sought. His words offered a rare glimpse into how faith, when practiced as radical trust rather than willful striving, can prepare a person for the improbable.
Pope Leo XIV reflects on swift conclave election, spiritual surrender
They're here because they want to see Jesus Christ and they want to see a messenger of peace.
When he said he put it in God's hands during the conclave, did he mean he stopped campaigning, or that he had never campaigned in the first place?
The source doesn't say he campaigned at all. What it suggests is that once the votes started going his way—by the third ballot—he stopped resisting and accepted what was happening. That's different from actively pursuing it.
Why does he keep pointing back to this 17th-century friar and the idea of surrender? That seems like an unusual foundation for someone running a global institution.
Because he's not running it in the conventional sense. He's describing a spirituality where you don't impose your will; you listen and respond. He lived that in Peru during terrorism, in unexpected postings. For him, it's not weakness—it's the opposite. It's the confidence to move without needing to control the outcome.
The comment about journalists misreading his face—was that defensive?
Not really. He was amused by it. He seemed to be saying: you're watching me very carefully, and you're often wrong, and that's okay. There's a lightness there. He's not pretending to be transparent; he's comfortable with the gap between what people see and what's actually happening.
What struck you most about his vision for the future?
That he's already thinking in terms of repair and presence. Argentina has been waiting for a papal visit for over a decade. He wants to go to Algeria because of its significance to Christian-Muslim dialogue. He's not just traveling; he's trying to show up where the Church has been absent or where dialogue matters most.
Do you think he actually believes God is directing all of this, or is that language?
I think for him there's no difference. He's lived a life where unexpected things happened and he responded to them. The language isn't separate from the belief. It's how he makes sense of his own experience.
Le Pouls
- The conclave moved with startling speed — four ballots, two days — and by the third vote, Leo knew the outcome was no longer in his hands.
- Rather than resist the momentum, he drew on a 17th-century spiritual practice of surrender, breathing through the weight of history and letting go.
- Aboard the papal plane returning from Turkey and Lebanon, he met the press with humor and fluency, gently correcting journalists who believed they could read his face.
- Beneath the ease lay something graver: in Lebanon he saw young Catholics who were not there for him, but for a messenger of peace — a distinction he held carefully.
- He mapped an ambitious future — Africa, Argentina, Peru, the Middle East — while urging dialogue over military pressure on crises like Venezuela.
- Observers noted a man transformed since his early tentative days: more direct, more settled, having learned to inhabit the role by surrendering to it.
In the long procession of men who have carried the weight of the papacy, few have spoken so openly about the moment they stopped resisting it. Pope Leo XIV, the first American to hold the office, reflected aboard his papal plane on the conclave that elected him in May — describing not triumph or ambition, but a quiet act of surrender, shaped by centuries-old Carmelite wisdom, that allowed him to say yes to a life he had not sought. His words offered a rare glimpse into how faith, when practiced as radical trust rather than willful striving, can prepare a person for the improbable.
Pope Leo XIV spoke openly for the first time about the conclave that made him pope, doing so aboard the papal plane as he returned from Turkey and Lebanon — his first official trip as pontiff. When the ballots began tilting his way across those two days in May, he made a deliberate choice: he stopped resisting. "Here we go Lord," he told reporters. "You're in charge and you lead the way." The conclave had moved with unusual speed, and by the third of four ballots, the direction was already clear.
What shaped that moment of surrender, Leo explained, was not his own resolve but a 17th-century Carmelite friar named Brother Lawrence and a book called "The Practice of the Presence of God" — a spirituality of radical trust he had carried through decades of missionary work in Peru, through terrorism, through postings he never anticipated. It was the same interior posture that had guided him through the conclave itself.
The press conference revealed a man who had grown visibly more comfortable in the role. Speaking in English, Spanish, and Italian, he laughed off reporters' attempts to decode his facial expressions during events in Lebanon, noting with dry humor that their interpretations were not always correct. Yet beneath the ease lay genuine weight: the crowds of young Catholics in Lebanon had moved him, and he was clear-eyed about why they had come. They were not there for him. They were there for a messenger of peace.
Looking outward, Leo outlined an ambitious travel agenda — Africa, with particular attention to Algeria for its significance in Christian-Muslim dialogue and its connection to St. Augustine; Argentina, Uruguay, and Peru in the years that follow. On Venezuela, he urged negotiation and economic pressure over military threats. Those who watched him noted how much he had changed since his earliest days as pope — more direct, more reflective, more willing to let the world see not just the office, but the person inside it.
Pope Leo XIV sat down with reporters aboard the papal plane on a Tuesday afternoon, heading home from his first official trip as pontiff. The newly elected leader of the Catholic Church had just returned from Turkey and Lebanon, and for the first time, he was willing to talk openly about what had crossed his mind during the conclave that had chosen him just months earlier.
When the votes began tilting in his direction during those May ballots, Leo said, he had made a deliberate choice. He stopped resisting the momentum. "I took a deep breath," he told the assembled journalists, speaking with the ease of someone who had grown noticeably more comfortable in front of cameras since his election. "I said 'Here we go Lord. You're in charge and you lead the way.'" The conclave itself had moved with unusual speed—just four ballots across two days before the former Cardinal Robert Prevost became the first American pope in history. By the third ballot, it was already clear which way the wind was blowing.
What emerged during the half-hour airborne press conference was a portrait of a man whose faith operates on a particular frequency. Leo spoke fluently in English, Spanish, and Italian, moving between topics with the confidence of someone who had spent years thinking about the world's problems. But when asked what shaped his approach to life's uncertainties, he pointed not to his own intellect or ambition, but to a 17th-century Carmelite friar named Brother Lawrence and a book called "The Practice of the Presence of God." The book describes a spirituality of radical surrender—the idea of simply handing your life over to God and trusting Him to lead. "That's been my spirituality for many years," Leo said. He had lived it out in Peru during decades of terrorism, in postings he never expected, in a life that had taken turns he could not have predicted.
When a reporter asked about his facial expressions during events in Lebanon—the cameras had caught what looked like surprise at the size of crowds—Leo laughed it off. "My face is very expressive but I'm oftentimes amused by how the journalists interpret my face," he said. "Sometimes I get really great ideas from all of you because you think you can read my mind or my face. You're not always correct." The comment drew laughter and revealed something about how he had settled into the role: he was paying attention to how he was being covered, he had perspective on it, and he was not taking himself too seriously.
But beneath the ease and humor lay something more serious. In Lebanon, Leo had witnessed the enthusiasm of young Catholics gathering to see him, and it had moved him. He understood that they were not really there for him as a person. "They're here because they want to see Jesus Christ and they want to see a messenger of peace," he said. That recognition—that he was a vessel, not the destination—seemed to anchor him.
On the world's pressing problems, Leo advocated for restraint and dialogue. On Venezuela, he urged the United States to pursue economic pressure and negotiation rather than military threats. On his future travels, he outlined an ambitious map: Africa next year, with special attention to Algeria because of its role in Christian-Muslim relations and its connection to St. Augustine, the fifth-century theologian who had inspired his religious order. He also wanted to visit Argentina, Uruguay, and Peru—his home for two decades as a missionary—sometime in 2026 or 2027. Argentina had been waiting for a papal visit since Pope Francis's election in 2013, and Leo seemed aware of that debt.
What struck observers was how much the man had changed since his early days as pope, when he had seemed tentative with the press. Now he was direct, reflective, and willing to let reporters see not just the office but the person holding it. He had learned to live with the role by surrendering to it—the same spiritual practice that had guided him through the conclave itself.
Citations marquantes
I took a deep breath. I said 'Here we go Lord. You're in charge and you lead the way.'— Pope Leo XIV, describing his reaction during the conclave
That's been my spirituality for many years—simply giving your life to the Lord and allowing the Lord to lead.— Pope Leo XIV, on the teachings of Brother Lawrence that guide his approach to life