In the long tradition of artists using their platforms to speak truth to power, British rock legend Phil Collins offered a candid moral appraisal of Donald Trump's character in an October interview with Piers Morgan — not as a policy analyst, but as a human being measuring another by the standard of basic dignity. His offhand revelation of an unwritten song titled 'Fat People With Guns' widened the conversation beyond one man's opinion of one president, touching the older, thornier question of what it costs an artist to criticize not just a leader, but the culture that produced him. The moment
Phil Collins Criticizes Trump's 'Nasty' Demeanor, Teases Song 'Fat People With Guns'
His whole manner is unattractive.
So Collins is saying Trump's manner is unattractive, but he's also got this song idea about fat people with guns. Are those two separate criticisms, or is the song meant to be about Trump voters?
The way he framed it, the song is about America itself, not Trump specifically. But you're right to notice the proximity—he's criticizing Trump's demeanor in one breath and then revealing this pretty pointed observation about American culture in the next. It's hard not to read them as connected.
But here's what we don't know: has Collins actually written the song? He said it's "waiting to be written." So we're talking about a concept, a phrase he jotted down. We don't know what it would actually say, who it would target, or whether it will ever exist.
The PR experts seem worried about backlash. Is that a real concern for someone like Collins, or are they overstating it?
They're pointing to a real pattern—artists have faced swift backlash when audiences feel personally criticized rather than politically critiqued. But Collins is 75, he's already in the Hall of Fame, and he's British. His commercial incentives might be different from a younger American artist's.
That's fair, but we should note that both PR people were speaking in June, months before this interview. They were making general points about the landscape, not specifically about Collins. We don't actually have data on whether Collins' comments will hurt his career or sales.
What about the Trump two-term thing? Is that a real concern?
Collins raised it as a possibility—that Trump might try to circumvent the 22nd Amendment. Trump himself said in August that the law is clear and he respects it.
Right. So we have Collins speculating, and Trump on record saying the opposite. The amendment is explicit—no person can be elected more than twice. Collins said it "wouldn't surprise" him, which is speculation, not reporting. The White House didn't respond, so we don't have their side beyond what Trump said in August.
Der Puls
- Collins, weeks from a solo Rock & Roll Hall of Fame induction, declared Trump's manner 'unattractive' and 'nasty,' measuring him against a remembered standard of presidential eloquence and dignity.
- The revelation of an unwritten song concept — 'Fat People With Guns,' described simply as being about America — transformed a political critique into something broader and more combustible.
- PR professionals drew a sharp line between criticizing a politician and criticizing a people, warning that audiences who fund an artist's career will not quietly absorb the suggestion that their culture is the problem.
- Collins speculated Trump might attempt to circumvent the two-term constitutional limit, then retreated by calling himself 'not a political person' — a qualifier that landed with some irony given everything he had just said.
- The White House offered no response, and the moment settled into a familiar modern tension: the gap between what an artist believes and what an audience will tolerate hearing from someone whose music they love.
In the long tradition of artists using their platforms to speak truth to power, British rock legend Phil Collins offered a candid moral appraisal of Donald Trump's character in an October interview with Piers Morgan — not as a policy analyst, but as a human being measuring another by the standard of basic dignity. His offhand revelation of an unwritten song titled 'Fat People With Guns' widened the conversation beyond one man's opinion of one president, touching the older, thornier question of what it costs an artist to criticize not just a leader, but the culture that produced him. The moment arrives as a reminder that speech, however freely given, is never without consequence — commercial, cultural, or otherwise.
Phil Collins sat down with Piers Morgan on a Friday in October and offered a blunt moral verdict on Donald Trump — not on his policies, but on his basic human presentation. The 75-year-old British rock icon said he thought 'not a lot' of the president, describing his manner as 'unattractive' and drawing an unfavorable contrast with predecessors he remembered as eloquent and dignified. 'When someone like Trump is as nasty as he is,' Collins said, 'you end up feeling dislike for him.'
The interview produced a second, perhaps more lasting moment: Collins revealed he had been holding onto a song concept, unwritten but preserved, titled 'Fat People With Guns' — a note to himself about America that he had written down so as not to lose it. Whether the song ever materializes is uncertain, but the phrase was enough to extend the conversation well beyond Trump.
Two PR professionals offered competing but ultimately aligned warnings about the risk. Doug Eldridge of Achilles PR argued that there is a meaningful difference between criticizing a politician and criticizing American culture itself — and that when an artist crosses that line, the audience notices. Sarah Schmidt of Interdependence reinforced the point: mocking a USA chant from a stage is not commentary on governance, it is commentary on the people buying the tickets. 'The statement is free,' Eldridge said, 'but the response will prove costly.'
Collins also speculated that Trump might attempt to circumvent the constitutional two-term limit — then described himself, with some irony, as 'not a political person.' Trump had addressed the question himself in August, acknowledging the law was clear. The 22nd Amendment, ratified in 1951, leaves little room for interpretation. Fox News Digital reached out to the White House and received no reply — a silence that, in its own way, completed the picture.
Phil Collins sat down with Piers Morgan on a Friday in October and did not mince words about Donald Trump. The 75-year-old British rock icon, weeks away from induction into the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame as a solo artist, offered a blunt assessment when asked his opinion of the president: "not a lot." What followed was a critique not of Trump's policies but of his basic presentation—the way he carries himself, the tone he sets. "His whole manner is unattractive," Collins said. He drew a contrast to the presidents who came before, men he remembered as eloquent and dignified, leaders you could respect even if you disagreed with them fundamentally. Trump, by his account, had crossed a line. "When someone like Trump is as nasty as he is, you end up feeling dislike for him."
But the interview yielded something else that caught attention: Collins revealed he has been sitting on a song concept, unwritten but preserved, titled "Fat People With Guns." He described it as being about America. The phrase had struck him enough to write it down so he would not lose it—a note to himself about a future composition that might never materialize. It was the kind of offhand remark that can linger, especially when a musician with Collins' stature says it on a platform like Morgan's.
The comments arrived amid a larger conversation in the entertainment world about what happens when artists use their visibility to criticize not just politicians but the country itself. Two PR professionals offered competing perspectives on the risk. Doug Eldridge, founder of Achilles PR, told Fox News Digital that there is a meaningful difference between targeting a specific politician and making sweeping statements about American culture. Most Americans, he noted, focus on elections during election years and have other priorities the rest of the time. When an artist moves from criticizing a party or a policy to criticizing America more broadly, the calculation changes. "The statement is free, but the response will prove costly," Eldridge said. Sarah Schmidt, president of Interdependence, a PR firm, reinforced the point: audiences can turn sharply against an artist when they perceive the criticism as directed at the American people themselves rather than at elected officials or specific policies. A musician mocking a USA chant from the stage, she said, is not commenting on governance—it is criticizing the beliefs of the people who buy tickets and stream songs.
Collins also ventured into speculation about Trump's future in office. He expressed doubt that the president would respect the constitutional two-term limit, saying it would not surprise him if Trump attempted to circumvent the restriction. He later qualified the remark by describing himself as "not a political person," a characterization that sat oddly against the substance of what he had just said. Trump himself had addressed the question months earlier, in August, telling reporters that while he would love to run again, the law was clear and strong. The 22nd Amendment, ratified in 1951, explicitly prohibits any person from being elected president more than twice.
Fox News Digital reached out to the White House for a response to Collins' remarks but received no immediate reply. The interview underscored a tension that has become familiar in recent years: the space between a musician's right to speak and the commercial consequences of speaking, the gap between what an artist believes and what an audience will tolerate hearing.
Bemerkenswerte Zitate
His whole manner is unattractive. When someone like Trump is as nasty as he is, you end up feeling dislike for him.— Phil Collins, in interview with Piers Morgan
The statement is free, but the response will prove costly.— Doug Eldridge, founder of Achilles PR, on artists criticizing American culture