Music PR boss and process engineer share career paths at Higher Options

It's just a different way of working it.
Mason on how media has evolved, not disappeared, as careers in the sector continue to shift.
Mark

So Kathryn Mason knew from the start she wanted music, but then she left the industry entirely. How does that fit with the idea that you should follow your passion?

Mimi

It's not really a contradiction. She left to live differently for a while, but she came back to music. The point is she didn't abandon the goal—she just took a breath and then recommitted to it in a new way, through her own firm.

Luke

But the article doesn't say why she left or what changed her mind about coming back. We know she went abroad and became a ski instructor, but we don't know if that was burnout, a relationship, money, or something else. That context matters.

Mark

Fair point. And Sandi Ndebele—he seems to have stumbled into process engineering almost by accident, through internships.

Mimi

Not quite accident. He took chemistry modules, liked them, did internships, and then it made sense. He was testing the fit as he went. That's actually a smart way to choose a career path.

Luke

But we don't know how many internships, where, or what specifically clicked. We know the outcome but not the actual decision-making process. And the Australia story—six months hosting quizzes—that's presented as a charming side note, but we don't know if he was burned out, saving money, or just exploring.

Mark

So both of them are being held up as examples of non-linear careers, but we're not really seeing the full picture of why they made the choices they did.

Mimi

That's true. But the event itself is about showing students that careers don't have to be linear. Mason and Ndebele are there to say: you can take breaks, you can try other things, and still end up where you want to be.

Luke

Which is a useful message. But it would be stronger if we knew more about the actual decision points—what made them leave, what made them come back, what they learned. Right now it reads more like a highlight reel than a real career story.

  • Students facing career choices are often told to find a straight path — but both speakers arrived at success through deliberate and accidental detours that reshaped their professional identities.
  • Mason's early conviction about music collided with the industry's notoriously closed doors, pushing her abroad and into ski instructing before she returned to build her own firm on her own terms.
  • Ndebele discovered his vocation not through childhood ambition but through the slow accumulation of coursework, internships, and a stretch in Australia where he earned his keep quizzing strangers on pub trivia.
  • The tension between security and exploration resolved differently for each — Mason expanded her niche outward into podcasting and broadcasting, while Ndebele kept engineering as his anchor while ranging freely around it.
  • Both now carry their unconventional histories into a room full of students, offering not a map but a philosophy: the skills gathered in unlikely places are rarely wasted.

At a career guidance event in Ireland, two professionals prepare to tell students something that formal education rarely teaches: that the winding road is often the most instructive one. Kathryn Mason built a music public relations firm after a stint as a ski instructor abroad, and Sandi Ndebele became a chartered process engineer at a global pharmaceutical company after hosting trivia nights in Melbourne bars. Their stories, unfolding at Higher Options, suggest that the skills gathered in unexpected places have a quiet way of compounding into something durable.

At Higher Options, a career guidance event drawing students across Ireland, two professionals will speak about journeys that looked nothing like the ones they might have planned.

Kathryn Mason always knew she wanted music. She studied business with a music management focus, worked for record labels, and then — as she puts it with self-aware humor — did what you do: moved abroad and became a ski instructor. When she returned to Ireland, she built Mason PR, a firm rooted in the music industry but reaching now into media, podcasting, and broadcasting. She founded the All-Ireland Podcast Awards and counts the IMRO Radio Awards among her clients. Her view of the media landscape is clear-eyed: "When people think media is dead, it's not dead. It's anything but dead. It's just a different way of working it."

Sandi Ndebele came to process engineering not through early passion but through recognition — the chemical engineering modules clicked, the internships confirmed the fit, and the degree's logic revealed itself the further he went. A break from work took him to Australia, where he funded his travels by hosting trivia nights across Melbourne bars, moving venue to venue every six months. He returned to engineering knowing the detour had cost him nothing. He now occasionally uses those quizmaster skills for charity, and has longer ambitions too — decoding his cat's meows. "There's a lot of engineering to be done," he says, "but we'll get there."

Neither followed a predetermined script, and that is precisely the point they will bring to students. The ski slope and the Melbourne pub were not interruptions to their careers — they were part of the formation of them.

At Higher Options, a career guidance event unfolding across morning and afternoon sessions, two professionals will stand before students to talk about how they got where they are—and how the path there looked nothing like a straight line.

Kathryn Mason runs Mason PR, a public relations firm rooted in the music industry. She knew at the outset that music was what she wanted. "I knew from day one I wanted to work in the music industry," she says. "And it's quite niche, so it's very hard to get into." She studied a business diploma with a focus on music management, then started her career working for record labels. But at some point, she stepped away. She moved abroad and became a ski instructor—a detour she describes with self-aware humor as simply "what you do."

When she returned to Ireland, Mason was resolved to stay in music but to expand what that meant. Today, her firm works with clients across the music business and far beyond it, managing relationships with people in media, podcasting, and broadcasting. She counts the IMRO Radio Awards among her clients and founded the All-Ireland Podcast Awards. The work has given her a dual perspective on two worlds that increasingly bleed into each other. "When people think media is dead, it's not dead," Mason observes. "It's anything but dead. It's just a different way of working it."

Sandi Ndebele took a different route into his field. He is a chartered principal process engineer at Eli Lilly and Company. He didn't arrive at process engineering through some childhood dream; instead, he discovered it through the work itself. During his studies, he found that the modules in chemical engineering clicked. Internships in the industry confirmed the fit. "Being a process engineer translates really well with all the stuff they try to teach us at college," he says. "And the further up you go through the degree, the more it makes sense."

But Ndebele's career, too, has had its detours. During a break from work, he traveled to Australia. While there, he found an unexpected way to earn money: hosting trivia quizzes in Melbourne bars, moving from venue to venue every six months. It was a skill he could pick up and set down, knowing his engineering job would be waiting when he returned. Now, years later, he occasionally puts those quizmaster talents to work for charity.

Neither Mason nor Ndebele followed a predetermined script. Mason's time as a ski instructor, Ndebele's months hosting quizzes in Australian bars—these were not detours that derailed them. They were experiences that broadened what they could do and how they thought about their work. Ndebele has even shifted his musical tastes from rave to metal, a change he credits with helping him concentrate. And he has a longer-term project in mind: figuring out what his cat's meows mean. "There's a lot of engineering to be done," he says, "but we'll get there."

Both will speak at Higher Options, offering students a view of careers that bend and branch, that include breaks and side pursuits, and that remain open to change. The message is not that you must know your path from day one, but that the skills you gather along the way—whether in a record label, a chemical plant, a ski resort, or a Melbourne bar—are rarely wasted.

I knew from day one I wanted to work in the music industry. And it's quite niche, so it's very hard to get into.
— Kathryn Mason
Being a process engineer translates really well with all the stuff they try to teach us at college. And the further up you go through the degree, the more it makes sense.
— Sandi Ndebele
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