You can make jokes online, but the numbers don't lie.
Lula accused Zema of expanding Minas Gerais' debt from ~100 billion to ~200 billion reais over 8 years without debt payments. The president conditioned federal debt renegotiation benefits on state investments in youth vocational training programs.
- Minas Gerais debt grew from ~100 billion to ~200 billion reais under Zema's 8-year tenure
- Lula conditioned federal debt relief on state investments in youth vocational training
- Lula's eighth visit to Minas Gerais in 2025; plans nationwide 2026 campaign tour
President Lula ironized Minas Gerais Governor Romeu Zema over fiscal mismanagement, citing increased state debt and criticizing his social media communication style during a campaign visit.
President Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva arrived in Minas Gerais on Thursday, December 11, with a message for the state's governor—and it came wrapped in mockery. During an interview with Portal Uai, Lula took aim at Romeu Zema, the Novo party governor, over fiscal management and his habit of performing for social media. The barb was pointed: Zema needed to stop "eating bananas with the peel on," a jab at a video the governor had posted back in February where he did exactly that while commenting on rising food prices.
The joke carried real weight. Lula used the moment to catalog what he sees as Zema's fiscal failures. When Zema took office, Minas Gerais carried a debt of roughly one hundred billion reais. By the time Lula was speaking, that number had swelled to more than two hundred billion. Eight years had passed, Lula said, without the state making meaningful payments on what it owed. The president framed this as a kind of inversion—Zema had accused the federal government of being a "time bomb," but Lula suggested the governor was simply describing his own administration.
What made the critique sharper was what Lula attached to it. The federal government was prepared to help Minas Gerais through the Pro Paig program, a debt renegotiation scheme designed to ease the burden on states. But Lula made clear that federal assistance would come with conditions. The state would have to invest in vocational training for young people. The money would flow, but only if Zema committed to building the kind of workforce development programs the president believed Minas Gerais needed. It was leverage dressed as partnership.
Beyond the numbers, Lula took issue with how Zema governed in public. The governor, he said, spent his time making "little jokes on the internet," inventing things, performing for an audience that existed mostly in the digital space. This approach, Lula suggested, would not work. The critique seemed to reflect a broader frustration with a style of governance that prioritized visibility and personality over substance—or at least, that is how the president chose to frame it.
Lula's visit to Minas Gerais was part of a larger push. He was in the state for the Federative Caravan, a campaign effort that would take him across the country, and he also attended the opening of a radiotherapy center in Itabira. This was his eighth trip to Minas Gerais in 2025 alone. But the real message was forward-looking. In 2026, Lula said, he planned to travel the country again, this time to draw explicit comparisons between what the federal government had accomplished and what state governments—particularly those run by his political opponents—had delivered to their people. He would show the works, discuss the social programs, and let voters decide who had governed better.
The morning's remarks, then, were not just about Zema's debt or his social media habits. They were a preview of a campaign strategy: Lula would make the case that his administration had done the work while others had merely performed. The banana peel joke would likely fade from memory, but the underlying message—that governance is measured in results, not in viral moments—was meant to stick.
Notable Quotes
He needs to stop eating bananas with the peel on and invest in vocational training to develop young people in Minas Gerais.— President Lula, on Governor Zema
When he says my government is a time bomb, he must be looking at his own government. He took over with a debt of one hundred-some billion and left it at two hundred-some billion.— President Lula, on state debt under Zema
The Hearth Conversation Another angle on the story
Why did Lula choose to mock Zema over a banana video from months ago? It seems oddly specific.
It's not really about the banana. It's a way to say that Zema governs through spectacle—through social media moments—rather than through actual policy. The banana is the symbol of that approach.
But Lula also talked about debt. That's the real issue, isn't it?
Yes. The debt doubled under Zema's watch, from roughly one hundred billion to over two hundred billion reais, and the state didn't pay down what it owed for eight years. Lula is saying: you can make jokes online, but the numbers don't lie.
So the federal help—the Pro Paig program—that's not unconditional?
No. Lula is saying Minas Gerais can get relief, but only if Zema invests in vocational training for young people. It's a way of forcing the state to spend on what Lula thinks matters.
Is this just about Minas Gerais, or is it a template for 2026?
It's a template. Lula said he'll tour the country next year comparing federal and state governance. He's building a narrative that his government delivers results while state governments—especially opposition ones—just perform.