In a Vancouver courtroom ringed by bulletproof glass, a family's grief has collided with the machinery of justice. Nearly seven years after a 13-year-old girl's body was found in a Burnaby park, the man convicted of her murder remains at the center of a legal story that now reaches back toward her father. What was meant to be the final reckoning has become a question of who may stand near the truth, and at what risk. The court must weigh a parent's right to witness against the fear of those who would try the accused, a tension as old as open justice itself.
Lawyers for Ibrahim Ali seek to bar the victim's father from post-trial hearings over an unproven gun allegation
A coin toss away from having shots fired
Why is a hearing about who gets to listen holding up a murder case that's already been decided?
Because sentencing and other post-trial steps still have to happen, and Ali's lawyers have refused to appear while the father might be present. Ali faces a mandatory life term, but the process can't move until this is settled.
What exactly is alleged about the gun?
That he brought a loaded Glock into the courthouse on Dec. 8, the verdict day. Police seized items from him the next day and arrested a man, and Vancouver Police confirmed an investigation on Dec. 12.
Careful, though. The "intent to kill" detail comes from McCullough, relaying what Victoria Police told him. It hasn't been tested in court and no charges have been laid.
Right, and his lawyer says only that there's an investigation and no proven allegation. What is documented is the no-contact undertaking and the restriction around the courthouse.
And what is the father actually asking for?
Not a seat in the room. An interpreter on the phone relaying proceedings, plus access to materials for this application.
Worth noting the prohibition order. The Prosecution Service confirmed it, but the source doesn't say what it covers in his case, only what such orders can cover generally.
Why does the defence say his status as a victim doesn't matter here?
Russell argued that on this application he's in the position of the accused, so the question is whether the lawyers' fear is reasonable. The Crown backed the father's standing, and the judge granted it.
But standing isn't the ruling that matters most. We don't know how Justice Bernard will decide the exclusion request.
Il Polso
- A father who has not been charged faces a police investigation over an alleged loaded handgun near the courthouse on the day his daughter's killer was convicted.
- Ali's defence lawyers refuse to appear for post-trial hearings, citing fear for their safety, and seek to bar the father entirely.
- Justice Lance Bernard has granted the father standing but has not yet decided whether he may be kept from listening.
- Next month a Surrey court date over seized items and a prohibition order will test how far the father's restrictions reach.
In a Vancouver courtroom ringed by bulletproof glass, a family's grief has collided with the machinery of justice. Nearly seven years after a 13-year-old girl's body was found in a Burnaby park, the man convicted of her murder remains at the center of a legal story that now reaches back toward her father. What was meant to be the final reckoning has become a question of who may stand near the truth, and at what risk. The court must weigh a parent's right to witness against the fear of those who would try the accused, a tension as old as open justice itself.
On Wednesday, a Vancouver judge heard a dispute over whether a murdered girl's father should be permitted to listen to the next stage of the case against her killer. The courtroom was built for the Air India trial and walled off from the public gallery by bulletproof glass. The father cannot be named because of a publication ban protecting his daughter, who was 13 when she died. Her body was found in a Burnaby park in July 2017.
The father is under police investigation over an allegation that he had a firearm at the courthouse in December, though he has not been charged and the allegation has not been proven. Ibrahim Ali was convicted of first-degree murder on Dec. 8. Police seized items from the father the following day, and he is due in Surrey Provincial Court next month over what happens to them. He also faces a prohibition order barring him from possessing weapons, and a no-contact undertaking keeps him away from the courthouse and surrounding blocks.
Ali's lawyers say police told them the father had brought a loaded Glock with an intent to kill. Citing their safety, they refuse to appear for post-trial proceedings and want him excluded entirely, including from a Mandarin interpreter relaying the hearings to him. His own lawyer says he wants only a narrow involvement: an interpreter on the phone and access to the application materials. The Crown supports his request.
Defence counsel Tim Russell argued that his colleagues' fears are reasonable, saying anyone in the courtroom that day was also a potential victim, and that the father stands in the position of the accused on this application. Justice Bernard granted the father standing but has not yet ruled on the wider request. Ali, who has not been sentenced, faces a mandatory life term with no parole eligibility for 25 years. The father's son did not respond to a request for comment.
On Wednesday, in a Vancouver courtroom built for the Air India terrorism trial and walled off from the public gallery by bulletproof glass, a judge heard a dispute over whether a murdered girl's father should be allowed to listen to the next stage of the case against her killer. The man cannot be named, because a publication ban protects the identity of his daughter, who was 13 when she died.
The backdrop is an allegation that has not been proven in court. His own lawyer, Brock Martland, told the BC Supreme Court that the father is under police investigation over an allegation that he had a firearm in the courthouse in December. He has not been charged. Ibrahim Ali was convicted of first-degree murder on Dec. 8. The girl's body was found in a Burnaby park in July 2017.
Ali's lawyers say they were told much more. Kevin McCullough said in an interview last month that Victoria Police contacted him two days after the verdict and said the father had brought a loaded Glock to court with an "intent to kill." McCullough and co-counsel Ben Lynskey now refuse to appear in court for post-trial proceedings, citing their safety. They want the father excluded from attending in any way, and they object to a Mandarin interpreter translating for him.
The paper trail is partial. Police seized items from the man on Dec. 9, the day after the verdict, and court documents show he is due in Surrey Provincial Court next month over what happens to them. A spokeswoman for the BC Prosecution Service said he also faces a prohibition order, a Criminal Code measure that can bar a person from possessing firearms, crossbows, restricted or prohibited weapons, ammunition and explosives. An email from Vancouver Police to Ali's lawyers dated Dec. 11 said the father was under a no-contact undertaking with them and "must not enter" the vicinity of the Supreme Court in Vancouver. It told them to call 911 immediately if he breached it. Martland said the undertaking also restricts his client from the courthouse and several blocks around it. Vancouver Police confirmed on Dec. 12 that a man had been arrested and that an investigation into allegations of a weapon in the Law Courts during the trial was underway.
Martland said his client wants only "a narrow form of involvement." He is not asking to sit in the courtroom, but to have an interpreter on the phone relay what is said, along with access to materials in the application. If the defence believed the undertaking had been breached, Martland suggested, they should call police, as the department's own email advised. Crown lawyer Daniel Porte told the judge the Crown supported the father's request for standing.
Tim Russell, sent by Lynskey and McCullough to argue the application, took the opposite view. The question, he said, is whether his colleagues' fears are reasonable. "To have a target on your back and realize you were a coin toss away from having shots fired would instil the most reasonable fear in anyone," he said, adding that anyone in the courtroom on Dec. 8 was also a victim. The defence, he said, does not want to undermine open courts but wants Ali to have a fair trial with counsel who can speak "without fear, without intimidation, without distraction." On this application, Russell argued, the father stands in the position of the accused, and his status as the victim's parent has no bearing.
Justice Lance Bernard granted the father standing on Wednesday. He has not yet ruled on the broader request to keep him from listening. Ali, who appeared by video, has not been sentenced and faces a mandatory life term with no parole eligibility for 25 years. The father's son did not immediately respond to a voice mail seeking comment.
Two things to watch: Justice Bernard's ruling on whether the father may follow the post-trial hearings, and the Surrey court date next month over the seized items.
Citazioni salienti
He is seeking a narrow form of involvement, with an interpreter on the phone relaying information.— Brock Martland, lawyer for the victim's father
We are seeking to ensure that Mr. Ali can have a fair trial with counsel who are free to make submissions without fear, without intimidation, without distraction.— Tim Russell, defence lawyer