Demuth Pledges Day-One Firings of All Minnesota Commissioners; Klobuchar Calls It Absurd Amid Fraud Fight

"We have to change the culture of fraud."
Demuth explained her pledge to fire all state commissioners on day one.

In a Rochester debate hall on a Wednesday night, two candidates vying to lead Minnesota argued over how fraud in the state's programs was allowed to swell to such size. Republican House Speaker Lisa Demuth promised a sweeping housecleaning of state leadership, while Democratic Sen. Amy Klobuchar countered with her own record of pressing for prosecutors and her unease about the incumbent she hopes to succeed. Like many moments when public trust is shaken, the question underneath is whether institutions can notice their own failures in time, and the answer will be settled by voters on Nov. 3.

On a Wednesday night in Rochester, Minnesota's two leading candidates for governor met for what was likely their final debate before Election Day. The air was thick with a single question: how did fraud in state programs grow so large without anyone stopping it?

Republican House Speaker Lisa Demuth opened with her boldest promise. If elected, she would fire every state commissioner on her first day and replace them with recognized experts. She framed it as a cultural reckoning, saying fraud had been allowed to run too long before it surfaced.

Democratic Sen. Amy Klobuchar dismissed the plan as absurd and pointed to her own work. After the fraud came to light, she said, she asked U.S. Attorney Andy Luger what his office needed, and his answer was more prosecutors. She said she carried that request to the top of the Justice Department and secured them. She also faulted Gov. Tim Walz for failing to catch the problem sooner, even while praising him as an incredible governor. Demuth countered that Klobuchar had not named a single policy she would change.

Klobuchar turned the attack outward, urging Demuth to separate herself from President Donald Trump, arguing that Minnesota did not need a rubber stamp in the governor's office.

Beneath the clash lies a state shaken by scandal and a debate over the economy, taxes, public safety and spending. Both candidates have ruled out tax increases, but they disagree sharply on how government should be run. Voters will decide on Nov. 3, a race that will make Minnesota's first female governor and could also make Demuth the first Black governor in state history.

On Wednesday night in Rochester, Minnesota's two leading candidates for governor stood on a debate stage and argued over how the state let fraud in its programs grow as large as it did. It was their second debate of the week, and likely the last before Election Day on Nov. 3.

Republican House Speaker Lisa Demuth opened with the sharpest promise of the night. If elected, she said, she will fire every state commissioner on her first day in office and replace them with people who are experts in their fields. She described the goal as bringing accountability and transparency to state government. "We have to change the culture of fraud," she said, adding that fraud left unchecked had gone on too long before finally coming to the surface.

Democratic Sen. Amy Klobuchar called the pledge absurd. She answered it with an account of her own role: after the fraud came to light, she said, she contacted U.S. Attorney Andy Luger to ask what his office needed. His answer, by her telling, was that he needed more prosecutors. She said she went to the highest level of the Justice Department and got them for him.

Klobuchar also took aim at the man she hopes to succeed. Gov. Tim Walz, she said, should have caught the fraud earlier and should have done more. That criticism sits alongside her description of Walz as an incredible governor, and Demuth pressed the point, saying Klobuchar had not named any specific policies on which she would break with him.

Klobuchar, in turn, tried to tie Demuth to national politics. She criticized Demuth for not clearly separating herself from President Donald Trump, saying Minnesota does not need a rubber stamp for Trump in the governor's office.

The scandals themselves have shaken the state. They have raised questions about how large-scale abuse of state programs went undetected, which has put government oversight at the center of the race.

The debate also covered the economy, taxes, public safety and the state's direction. Both candidates have ruled out tax increases. Demuth argues that Minnesota needs to rein in spending and regulations, while Klobuchar emphasizes lowering costs for health care, housing and child care.

The stakes carry some history. Republicans have not won a statewide race in Minnesota since 2006. Whoever wins, the state will elect its first female governor, and a Demuth victory would also make her the first Black governor in Minnesota's history. Voters decide on Nov. 3.

The thing that I will do on day one is I am going to be firing all commissioners.
— Lisa Demuth, Republican House Speaker
Tim Walz should have caught the fraud earlier and he should have done more.
— Sen. Amy Klobuchar
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