Burnham and Swinney clash over devolution as SNP charts independence course

Countries don't become independent by waiting for permission
SNP strategist Toni Giugliano on how the party plans to build support for independence over time.
Mark

So the SNP is back on its feet after being hammered two years ago. But Swinney and Burnham seem to want completely different things from Scotland's future.

Mimi

They do, but it's more subtle than that. They actually agree on the diagnosis—that Westminster has been too centralizing, that power should move closer to people. Where they split is on what comes after that.

Luke

Right, but we should be clear about what's actually on the table. Burnham is offering to devolve employment support powers. That's real, but it's also fairly narrow. The SNP's response is to reject the whole framing that Scotland is overly centralized. So they're not even negotiating from the same baseline.

Mimi

Exactly. Swinney sees devolution as a stepping stone. Burnham sees it as the destination. For Swinney, the real goal has always been independence.

Mark

And Burnham explicitly said he wants to move past the independence question. So how do they work together at all?

Luke

That's the tension. Privately, SNP figures accept that Westminster controls whether another referendum happens. The UK government says no. So the SNP's strategy now is to build the independence case through governance—show they can run Scotland well, build consensus over time.

Mimi

They've even set up a new group called "Independence" to think through the practical questions. What currency, how pensions work. They're playing a long game.

Mark

But Burnham might call a general election soon. Does that change the calculation?

Luke

That's what the SNP is watching for. They lost 36 seats to Labour in 2024. If Labour looks vulnerable, the SNP thinks it can reclaim some of that ground. But that's separate from the devolution question.

Mimi

The real story is that they're operating on different timescales. Burnham wants to solve regional inequality now, through devolution. Swinney is building toward independence, which he sees as the only real solution.

Mark

So this isn't a partnership. It's two different visions waiting to see which one wins.

Luke

Not quite. They will work together on some things—economic growth, regional investment. But on the fundamental question of Scotland's constitutional future, they're in genuine disagreement. And the SNP has accepted it can't force that question right now.

  • SNP won fifth consecutive Scottish Parliament election in May 2024, though with fewer seats than in 2021
  • Labour gained 36 SNP seats in 2024 general election; SNP now eyeing recovery in those constituencies
  • Peter Murrell, SNP former chief executive, jailed for embezzling over £400,000 from party
  • Prime Minister Burnham offered to devolve employment support powers and regional economic authority to Scotland
  • SNP launched new internal group called 'Independence' to develop long-term case for Scottish independence

Burnham proposes devolving employment support powers and regional economic empowerment to Scotland, framing it as moving beyond Westminster centralization. Swinney rejects claims Scotland is overly centralized and maintains independence as his lifelong political goal, with the SNP building grassroots support for future referendums.

UK PM Andy Burnham and Scottish First Minister John Swinney are navigating competing visions for Scottish devolution, with independence remaining a core SNP goal despite Westminster's resistance.

The Scottish National Party gathered in Aberdeen this week for its annual conference in a mood of recovery. Two years ago, the party had been decimated—Labour swept away 36 SNP seats in the 2024 general election, a landslide that left the party reeling. Worse still came the criminal conviction of Peter Murrell, the SNP's former chief executive and estranged husband of ex-First Minister Nicola Sturgeon, who was jailed for embezzling more than £400,000 from party coffers. When John Swinney took over as First Minister and party leader, the organization was in genuine crisis. Yet in May, the SNP won its fifth consecutive Scottish Parliament election, and Swinney now has his own electoral mandate. The conference brochure captured the moment: a photograph of Swinney, smiling, holding a glass of whisky.

Next year marks two decades of SNP rule at Holyrood. That durability, combined with the party's recent parliamentary victory, has given activists genuine momentum as they contemplate what comes next. But the real story unfolding this week is not about Scottish politics alone. It is about how Prime Minister Andy Burnham and First Minister Swinney are charting fundamentally different courses on the question that has defined Scottish politics for a generation: independence.

Burnham arrived in Scotland this week—visiting Motherwell, among other stops—with a devolution agenda. He and his Secretary of State for Scotland, Douglas Alexander, have argued that Scotland is "one of the most centralised nations in Europe." Burnham has offered to devolve powers over localised employment support, currently held by the Department of Work and Pensions. He spoke of designing "a new model together of regional economic empowerment across Scotland, one that puts control in the hands of local people." The language is collaborative, the framing is about shared diagnosis: both men believe Westminster has failed to deliver, and that power works better when it sits closer to the people it affects.

Swinney rejected the premise outright. He disputed the claim that Scotland is overly centralised and instead called for "much more opportunity for a regional dimension to take forward skills, economic opportunity and planning." His vision overlaps in some ways with the regional combined authorities that exist in parts of England, though without elected mayors. The disagreement is not merely technical. For Swinney, independence has been a lifelong political goal. For Burnham, the constant questions around Scottish independence represent a distraction from the real work of economic growth and regional empowerment.

This tension surfaced sharply in how SNP activists interpreted Burnham's recent comments on Brexit. When the Prime Minister suggested he might revisit the outcome of the 2016 EU referendum, SNP delegates seized on the logic: if Westminster can reconsider Brexit, why shouldn't Scotland be able to reconsider independence? They pointed to an exchange in Parliament last month between SNP MP Chris Law and Burnham, in which Burnham had suggested another Scottish independence referendum could be held if public opinion demanded one. SNP figures read this as his authentic position. Burnham and Downing Street moved quickly to extinguish that interpretation, with the Prime Minister saying he wanted to "move on" from the independence debate.

The SNP's response has been strategic rather than confrontational. Senior party figures privately acknowledge that Westminster holds the legal authority to sanction another independence referendum, and the UK government has made clear it will not. So the party has shifted its focus. Rather than demand a referendum it cannot force, the SNP is building the case for independence through how it chooses to govern. This week, the party launched a new internal group simply called "Independence." At its launch event, former Policy Convener Toni Giugliano argued that "countries don't become independent by waiting for permission. They do so when support becomes unstoppable and when a national consensus for change is built." He pressed the party to answer fundamental questions now—what currency would an independent Scotland use, how would the state pension work—questions that will shape the long-term case.

For now, the immediate calculation is more tactical. The SNP senses vulnerability in Labour's position. The party holds the seats it gained from the SNP in 2024, but those constituencies remain contested political terrain. Swinney and his activists are watching closely to see when Burnham might call a general election. A Labour government that appears weak or divided could give the SNP an opening to reclaim ground it lost. The conference this week was buoyant, but the real test lies ahead: whether Burnham's devolution offer can satisfy Scottish demands for power, or whether the SNP's long game—building independence as an unstoppable consensus—will prove the stronger force.

Countries don't become independent by waiting for permission. They do so when support becomes unstoppable and when a national consensus for change is built.
— Toni Giugliano, SNP former Policy Convener, speaking at Independence group launch
I want us to design a new model together of regional economic empowerment across Scotland, one that puts control in the hands of local people.
— Prime Minister Andy Burnham, at New College Lanarkshire
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