AP Top 25 Poll Draws Criticism for Ranking Florida and South Carolina Despite Three Losses Each

Three losses. Not one, not two, but three, and still ranked.
The column's complaint about Florida, which fell 27-8 to Georgia and kept its place in the AP poll.
Mark

Why does a weekly poll matter this much? It's only the AP.

Mimi

Because the author argues it nudges the College Football Playoff committee's rankings, the ones that decide who plays for the title.

Mark

And his main example is Florida?

Mimi

Yes. Three losses, 45-17 at Missouri, 38-19 to South Carolina, 27-8 to Georgia, and still ranked after the last one.

Luke

Worth saying that this is a column. Calling those losses blowouts is fair by the scores, but the claim that the SEC logo is the reason is his inference. No voter is quoted.

Mark

What about South Carolina?

Mimi

No. 23, with losses to Mississippi State, Kentucky and Alabama, 49-18. They did beat Tennessee and Oklahoma.

Mark

He also criticizes Notre Dame, which isn't SEC.

Mimi

Right, No. 4 at 7-1, ranked above unbeaten UCLA and one-loss Indiana. That's part of his brand-name argument.

Luke

That one cuts against a pure SEC-bias story. It suggests a broader habit, if his reading is right, but we don't know how individual voters weighed schedules.

Mark

Does anything suggest the poll will correct itself?

Mimi

He says some of it will sort out in November, but offers no firm prediction.

  • Florida keeps its ranking after a 27-8 loss to Georgia, its third defeat of the year, and the critic calls those losses blowouts rather than close calls.
  • South Carolina sits at No. 23 with three losses, and the column says it climbed into the poll on a thin Oklahoma win and a tenuous record.
  • Northwestern, unranked with two narrow losses, and undefeated UCLA are cast as the teams the voters are overlooking.
  • Coaches' public protests over the nine-game SEC schedule are portrayed as pressure that the poll appears to have already accommodated.
  • The stakes reach the playoff, since the critic expects AP rankings to influence the committee, though he concedes that November games may still sort things out.

On a November weekend when Florida fell 27-8 to Georgia, a familiar question about the college football season came back into view: whether the poll that shapes reputations is measuring games or the badges on the jerseys. An opinion writer for OutKick, carried by Fox News, argues that AP voters are keeping SEC teams with three losses in the rankings while overlooking unbeaten UCLA and a close-losing Northwestern. The argument carries weight because the same poll is expected to whisper into the College Football Playoff committee's ear, so an early-season habit of deference could quietly harden into the season's shape.

Florida lost 27-8 to Georgia on Saturday, its third defeat of the season, and the AP Top 25 released afterward still had the Gators ranked. An OutKick column, published by Fox News, takes that as evidence that voters are leaning on brand names and conference logos rather than on results.

The columnist's case against Florida is specific. The Gators have two good wins, over Ole Miss and Texas, but three losses he describes as blowouts: 45-17 at Missouri, 38-19 to South Carolina, and the loss to Georgia. He argues a team with close defeats might deserve a place, but these were not close, and Florida would not be ranked without the SEC name.

South Carolina, at No. 23 with three losses, gets the same treatment. The column says the Gamecocks climbed in on a win over a mediocre Oklahoma team, and points to losses to Mississippi State, Kentucky and a 49-18 defeat by Alabama. The contrast he draws is with Northwestern, unranked with two close losses, and undefeated UCLA, whose road win over Oregon he thinks is hard to set apart from Notre Dame's schedule.

The critique does not stop at the SEC. Notre Dame, at 7-1 and ranked No. 4, has a single loss at BYU, and the author questions why it sits ahead of unbeaten UCLA and one-loss Indiana. He also ties the rankings to coaches' public complaints about the nine-game SEC schedule, which he says the poll seemed to be accommodating before anyone formally asked.

This is an opinion piece, and its judgments about quality belong to the author. Still, the stakes are practical. He expects the AP poll to shape how the College Football Playoff committee sees these teams, and he thinks it should not. He acknowledges that some of these problems may resolve as the November games are played.

Florida lost 27-8 to Georgia on Saturday. It was the Gators' third defeat of the season, and the AP Top 25 poll released afterward still has them ranked. That is the starting point for an OutKick column, published by Fox News, which argues that the poll's voters are leaning on brand names and conference logos rather than results.

The columnist's case against Florida is specific. The Gators have two good wins, over Ole Miss and Texas, but three losses that he describes as blowouts: 45-17 at Missouri, 38-19 to South Carolina, and the 27-8 loss to Georgia. He says a team with three close losses might deserve a spot. These were not close, and he writes that Florida would not be ranked if it did not wear the SEC patch.

South Carolina is No. 23 with three losses of its own. The column says the Gamecocks climbed into the poll by beating a mediocre Oklahoma team. They have lost to Mississippi State and Kentucky, and were beaten 49-18 by Alabama. They did beat Tennessee, but the author sees little to justify a ranking with three losses this early.

The contrast he draws is Northwestern, which is unranked with two losses, both close: one to Indiana and one to an Oregon team he calls still feisty. He also points to Missouri at No. 19, whose résumé he calls unimpressive. The Tigers were beaten 31-3 by Ole Miss and lost to Mississippi State, and their win over Florida looks weaker now that the Gators have collapsed.

Texas is No. 10, despite losses to Oklahoma and, at home, to Florida. The Longhorns also have a narrow escape against Ohio State and a win over Ole Miss. Texas Tech is No. 13 with one loss, a bad one at Cincinnati, and two wins over ranked opponents in a Big 12 the author calls surprisingly strong.

He does not limit the complaint to the SEC. Notre Dame is No. 4 at 7-1, with wins over Wisconsin, Rice, Michigan State, Purdue, North Carolina, Stanford and Navy. Its one loss came at BYU, its only difficult game by his account. Ahead of the Irish sit neither undefeated UCLA nor one-loss Indiana. Indiana's only defeat was a close one to Ohio State, with Julian Sayin at quarterback. UCLA is the only unbeaten team in the Big Ten or SEC, with a home win over Wisconsin and a road win over Oregon, which the author says is hard to separate from Notre Dame's schedule.

He also ties the rankings to the public complaints of coaches. Lane Kiffin and Kalen DeBoer's Alabama counterpart is not named, but he names Sarkisian alongside Kiffin as coaches who spent weeks protesting the SEC's nine-game schedule and demanding consideration, while, he says, the poll was already giving it. He adds that the SEC and Big Ten are less talented than in past years, that NIL and the transfer portal have flattened the sport, and that Indiana's national championship should have taught voters not to extend the benefit of the doubt to traditional powers.

This is an opinion piece, and the judgments about quality are the author's. The practical stakes are real, though. He expects the AP poll to shape how the College Football Playoff selection committee views teams, and says it should not. He acknowledges some of the problems will sort themselves out as November games are played.

Florida would not be ranked if its jersey patch did not carry the SEC logo.
— OutKick columnist, Fox News
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