Both of them they're just going to go there and try to beat each other up
On May 16, Netflix stages its first MMA event, gathering figures who helped define the sport across different eras — Rousey, Carano, Diaz, Perry, and Ngannou himself — into a single night that asks old questions anew. Francis Ngannou, sharing the card as a competitor, has offered his read on the main event: Rousey, he believes, still carries the fire. The gathering is less a simple sports card than a reckoning with time, legacy, and what remains when fighters return to the place that once defined them.
- A decade-old debate in women's MMA is finally being forced to a conclusion, with Rousey and Carano meeting long after both their primes have passed.
- Ngannou sees something unsettled and hungry in Rousey's eyes at the press conference — a visible intensity that tips his prediction her way despite the uncertainty surrounding both fighters.
- The Diaz-Perry co-feature represents a different kind of tension: two fighters so resistant to prediction that even a seasoned heavyweight champion refuses to call it.
- Netflix's entry into live MMA is not a quiet debut — it arrives with one of the most recognizable lineups the sport has assembled outside a major promotion.
- The event's outcome remains genuinely open; neither nostalgia nor reputation can substitute for what actually happens when the cage door closes.
Francis Ngannou will be fighting on May 16, but he's just as eager to watch. Netflix is hosting its first MMA event, and the card reads like a reunion of the sport's most compelling names — Ronda Rousey and Gina Carano headlining, Nate Diaz and Mike Perry in the co-feature, and Ngannou himself squaring off against Philipe Lins.
Asked to pick the main event on the Pound 4 Pound podcast, Ngannou didn't hesitate: Rousey. She's five years younger than Carano, her layoff is shorter, and something in her demeanor caught his attention. "You can see at the press conference, picking it up, I'm like, 'Hold on a minute,'" he said. Carano may project calm and readiness, but Ngannou reads Rousey as still carrying that competitive fire.
The matchup itself carries a decade of unresolved history. Carano helped build women's MMA before Rousey arrived in the UFC in 2013 and expanded it into something far larger. The question of who would win between them had never been answered — until now. Neither is at her peak, and what either looks like inside the cage remains an open question.
Diaz versus Perry is something else entirely. Ngannou lit up at the mention of it — not to predict, but to witness. Both men are the kind of fighters who simply don't stop, which makes forecasting almost beside the point. "Those are people that you cannot predict," he said plainly. He just wants a good seat. Whatever order the bouts fall in, Ngannou's intention is clear: he wants to be present for all of it, not just his own fight.
Francis Ngannou is going to have company on May 16. Netflix is staging its first-ever mixed martial arts event, and the former UFC heavyweight champion finds himself sharing a card with some of the sport's most recognizable names—Ronda Rousey and Gina Carano headlining, Nate Diaz and Mike Perry in the co-feature, and Ngannou himself facing Philipe Lins in heavyweight action. It's the kind of lineup that doesn't happen often, and Ngannou seems genuinely eager to be there, not just to fight, but to watch.
When Ngannou sat down with the Pound 4 Pound podcast, he didn't hesitate when asked to pick a winner in the main event. Rousey, he said. The reasoning was straightforward: on paper, Rousey holds the advantages. She's five years younger than Carano, and while both women are returning after years away from competition—Rousey last fought in 2016, Carano in 2009—Rousey's layoff is shorter. More than that, Ngannou saw something in Rousey's demeanor as the fight approached. "Even though Gina seems to be very calm, very prepared, it looks like Ronda still has that fire," he said. "You can see at the press conference, picking it up, I'm like, 'Hold on a minute.' Like, step back."
The Rousey-Carano matchup carries weight beyond the immediate contest. For a decade, the question had hung in the air: what if these two fought? Carano, along with Cris Cyborg and others, had been instrumental in building women's MMA in the late 2000s. Then Rousey arrived in the UFC in 2013 and transformed that foundation into something massive. The debate about who would win had never quite settled, and now, finally, it would be answered. Neither fighter is in her prime anymore, and what either will look like when the cage door closes remains genuinely uncertain. But Ngannou is willing to make the call.
The Diaz-Perry matchup is a different animal entirely. When Ngannou learned about it, he was thrilled—not because he had a prediction, but because he wanted to watch it. "Both of them they're just going to go there and try to beat each other up," he said. These are fighters who don't quit, who don't give up unless something forces them to. They're unpredictable in the way that makes prediction almost meaningless. Ngannou was clear about his position: he wasn't picking a winner. "It's hard, though. Those are people that you cannot predict. None of them you can count out." He just wanted a seat where he could see it unfold. Whether his own fight with Lins is the co-main event or happens earlier, Ngannou's priority is clear—he wants to be there for Diaz and Perry, not because he knows what will happen, but because he knows it will be worth watching.
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Even though Gina seems to be very calm, very prepared, it looks like Ronda still has that fire. You can see at the press conference, picking it up, I'm like, 'Hold on a minute.'— Francis Ngannou on his Rousey pick
Those are people that you cannot predict. None of them you can count out. They're going to stick there until the end unless something happens.— Francis Ngannou on Diaz and Perry
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You picked Rousey pretty decisively. What made that call easier than the Diaz-Perry fight?
With Rousey and Carano, there are actual measurables—age, recency of competition, the way they're carrying themselves in public. You can see Rousey's intensity. But Diaz and Perry? They operate on a different level. They're not predictable in the normal sense.
So it's not that you don't know who's better, it's that the normal rules don't apply to them?
Exactly. They'll both be there until something breaks. You can't count either one out because neither one will accept being counted out. That's not a weakness in prediction—that's just the reality of who they are.
Does it matter to you who actually wins the Diaz-Perry fight?
Not really. I'm going to watch it either way. The outcome doesn't change what makes it interesting. Both of them are going to leave everything in there.
And Rousey-Carano settles something that's been hanging for ten years?
It does. But honestly, we still won't know what would have happened if they'd fought in their primes. We're seeing them now, after all this time. That's a different question entirely.